Sept. 13, 2023
I started at 405 pounds, BMI 74.1 on April 22, 2022. Quit Uber Eats and Salt: Down 40 pounds in 4 months With Trulicity: Down 86 pounds in 12 months / Today is Mounjaro Day 6: Down 7 pounds Total lost is 133 pounds. Today I weigh 272 pounds with BMI 49.7.
As I continue reading and learning about the GLP-1 and my GLP-1/GIP diabetes and weight loss medications, I am really surprised at how similar taking these meds is to when I had the Roux en Y Gastric Bypass in 2001.
Protein First
Before my RNY in 2001, it was drilled into us to eat protein first. That is the same admonition I hear with providers so we can make sure we get enough protein along with the fat loss. Muscle loss happens (hence Ozempic Face and Ozempic Butt) and protein first supposedly can help keep muscle mass instead of losing it, too.
I do want to say that exercise/weight training would do way more than just eating protein for maintaining/growing your muscle mass. Most docs say that, but I don’t hear people repeating that admonition so not sure if everyone’s listening.
Baggy Skin
Of course the Ozempic Face and Butt does not just happen on that one semaglutide medication, but can happen with all people who have rapid weight loss.
For me, I would rather have baggy skin than being so fat I have to buy medical gowns for people up to 600 pounds… which I did. Go ahead, make my face look like an old hag! I’m 62 and have very little modesty or vanity anymore, so that might make a difference. For most every baggy area, there is a way to take care of it and hold it from jiggling. Girdles/Spanx/Leggings/Long-Sleeves can all hide the gooshy parts if you feel you need to do that.
Around my 100-pound weight loss, I asked the girls if I should stop wearing sleeveless clothes and wear a sweater over my arms. Without hesitation, they told me to be proud of my jiggling skin. They said it quite enthusiastically, too. I was pretty surprised, but glad because it’s just too damn hot for long sleeves and sweaters. Amusingly, I got into wearing sleeveless because my arms were/are so big, I couldn’t find shirts or dresses that have arms big enough for me. It was just easier to wear sleeveless.
Sweet side story: My 4-year old granddaughter loves the soft and gooshy dripping skin from my upper arm. Initially, she called it “Huckabuck” which is a bread she makes at her Waldorf School. She said it felt like the dough. I thought that was so sweet! Then I taught her they were called batwings and now that’s what she calls them as she massages my smooshy skin. It’s endearing and my smiles show her that having a different body is a good thing.
Hair Loss
People are going on about hair loss. With Weight Loss Surgery (WLS), hair loss is common. When the body’s caloric intake plummets, unnecessary body functions go by the wayside. Hair growth or pumping heart? The body chooses the heart and says, “Screw the hair growth!” (Sadly, it doesn’t seem to stop growing on our legs or underarms! Only our heads.)
The hair loss is not forever, I promise. It can last a year or so, but usually less. I’ve never seen anyone go bald. Well, I am bald because I shave my head, so this is a zero issue for me, but I wouldn’t care if I did have hair.
Hair grows back.
Gall Bladder Issues
So many people had post-op gallbladder issues after WLS, doctors began taking it out during the initial surgery. Mine was not taken out with my RNY and I had no problems during my 190 pound in 1 year weight loss in 2001. Having rapid weight loss can send the gallbladder into distress. Thank heavens mine was removed 10 years ago!
Nausea & Vomiting
This happens with WLS, too. I have not had any on either the Trulicity or the Mounjaro, thank goodness. I learned that eating too much brought on a lot of nausea and vomiting. From what I can see with these meds, I am not sure yet if eating too much or noshing on greasy or cheesy foods causes folks to have more nausea than if they were eating cleaner. I’d love to hear from vegetarians and vegans about their nausea levels.
No Water During Eating
The one thing we did with WLS was we were told not to drink anything while eating because that flushes the food through the pouch and makes you hungry sooner. Of course, these medications operate differently, but I wonder if not drinking with meals might help mitigate nausea and vomiting as well and keep someone feeling full longer.
The Hoopla
Back in the olden days, the admonitions were the same:
- We don’t know enough about them.
- They were rushed through the testing process.
- We don’t know what they are going to do in the long term.
- Big Medicine & Big Parma are only in it for the money and don’t care about the patient.
- People are just going to re-gain weight. (And I did after my RNY, but it took 19 years to get to where I started before the surgery.)
- Folks have to take a dozen supplements to make up for the lack of food.
- The side effects aren’t worth it.
What is different from 22 years ago is there was no social media so the clarion call wasn’t nearly as loud as it is now. This is part of why I want to share that these admonitions have been around for decades now.
You are not alone!
photo by Barb Herrera
Hello,
Hailing from the UK, where I sit on a waiting list for bariatric surgery. I have been in this tier of the weight management system for over 5 years. Met with the surgeon in December and informed it would be at least another 12 months before my surgery. Then GLP-1s became easier to obtain in this country and I made a decision to try it and see. On a low dose, slow and steady about 9 kilos. My question for you is, do you have any regrets to the surgery and if you had the choice would you do it differently now? I can’t find many articles comparing GLP-1s to surgery in effectiveness and longevity. Do you know? Many thanks for sharing your story and experience. Kind regards,
Hi, Anna! I am so glad you are here… thanks.
I have a good amount of information for you. I would start here:
My Short History from Fen-Phen to Gastric Bypass and then move to 190 Pounds Gone… Twice! Which was easier… Gastric Bypass or GLP-1s? You will learn a lot and then I would love to help with the questions you still have afterwards.
The short answer is, if there were GLP-1s when I had my RNY in 2001, I would have never done the RNY. I am far healthier now than I ever was after the RNY. And then, here I am 24 years later still with serious medical issues from the surgery. No one knew then that these effects would last for decades. Blessedly, we know far more about GLP-1s as they have been around since 2005 (even though they are just now making a splash).
Questions: Which surgery are you in line for? Also what medication are you on and your dose? And lastly, how much are you needing/wanting to lose? You can email me if you aren’t comfortable saying so here. HealthAtAnyCost @Gmail.com
I look forward to hearing from you.
Barb,
Thank you for your courage, openness and your experiences. It sounds like you had difficult complications from both Fen-Phen and RNY surgery and great success with GLP1s. I appreciate you answering my questions about GLP-1s vs surgery. It is a topic, I think, that needs to be discussed. I don’t want to sacrifice my stomach, if It is not the best option. Although I desperately want to be a healthy weight. And what you talk about, the quieted down food drive, sounds bliss. I thought that was a by product of the surgery, but it sounds like that might not be true. I also watched my step mom, who, like you, had open bariatric surgery, suffer terribly.
I am suitable for an RNY. I am taking Mounjaro 5mg. I have shed 35 pounds, 19 of that on Mounjaro in the last 3 months and have at least 78 more pounds to lose. My diet is pretty good and I love yoga.
Anna,
I know that desperation. I mean, just the name of my brand: Health at ANY Cost… means I will do ANYTHING to stay alive.
Know, though, I am not a doctor. Just a person on the Internet and you do need to talk to your providers about the options.
That disclaimer said, you seem to be doing really well on the GLP-1s! And you said your RNY wouldn’t be for another year, right? How about hanging out on the GLP-1s and see how you do. 3 months is barely a blip in the experience and you are on a pretty low dose. Your body is just now acclimated to the medication… it takes that long to become stable in your system. And you are losing more than a pound a week, which is exactly where you should be. .5 to 2 pounds a weeks is the typical loss schedule. You’re on target! I know the desire to get those other 78 lbs. off is great, but stay in the moment. Do what you know you need to do to stay healthy. And take your shot!! I believe in you!